Reiyalindis by Cory Poulson


Title: Reiyalindis

Author: Cory Poulson

Publisher: Sweetwater (Cedar Fort)

Release Date: August 8, 2009

ISBN: 978-1599552880

Size: 272 pages, 6×9, softcover

Genre: Fantasy

Vaelon Sahani’s destiny is about to confront him face to face and her name is Reiyalindis. To save their home from an unspeakable darkness, Reiyalindis, Vaelon, and their new allies form an unlikely band of adventurers who must put their prejudices aside to battle the evil confronting them. With shocking discoveries, bursts of humor, and danger around every corner, Reiyalindis is a thrilling fantasy, full of suspense, that will keep you guessing to the very last page.

Eliza’s Field of Faith by Rachelle Pace Castor


Title: Eliza’s Field of Faith

Author: Rachelle Pace Castor

Illustrator: Dixon Leavitt

Publisher: Covenant

Release Date: August?

ISBN: 978-1-59811-658-8

Size: 32 pages, 8.5×11, hardcover

Genre: Picture Book

“When the prophet calls, it is as if God is calling. And I’m not about to tell God no.”

Three years is a long time, but that is how long Papa would be away on the Lord’s errand. Now it is up to Eliza and the rest of her family to make sure the wheat is planted in time to reap a good harvest. But because Papa is gone this year, everyone else in Dry Creek has seedlings sprouting before Eliza’s family is able to get their crop in the ground. Will harvest time bring abundance or yet another hungry season?

A beautifully illustrated tale based on a true story, Eliza’s Field of Faith shows how miracles sometimes happen in unexpected ways.

Heavenly by Jennifer Laurens


Title: Heavenly

Author: Jennifer Laurens

Publisher: Grove Creek Publishing

Release Date: August 15, 2009

ISBN: 978-1933963846

Size: 294 pages, 6×9, softcover

Genre: YA Romantic Fantasy

Read excerpt here.

I met someone who changed everything. Matthias. My autistic sister’s guardian angel. Honest. Inspiring. Funny. Hot. And immortal. That was the problem.

What could I do? I did what any other girl would do—I fell in love with him. Zoë’s sister darts in front of cars. Her brother’s a pothead. Her parents are so overwhelmed; they don’t see Zoë lost in her broken life. Zoë escapes the only way she knows how: partying.

Matthias, a guardian sent from Heaven, watches over Zoë’s autistic sister. After Zoë is convinced he’s legit, angel and lost girl come together in a love that changes destiny. But Heaven on Earth can’t last forever.

The Ties That Bind by Kristen McKendry


Title: The Ties That Bind

Author: Kristen McKendry

Publisher: Covenant

Release Date: August 1, 2009

ISBN: 978-1-59811-800-1

Size: 208 pages, softcover

Genre: General

After losing both parents at a young age, Daniel McDonald grew up disconnected from his family history. Now, as he approaches the birth of his first child, he feels deeply unsettled about his severed familial bonds. Before Daniel can feel ready to be a father himself, he knows he must unravel the painful mystery of his past and make peace with what he finds. This quest begins as Daniel discovers the story of his grandmother, a woman of great faith who wanted nothing more than to have her family sealed together eternally, but whose untimely death led to the scattering of her offspring.

Daniel’s journey of understanding unfolds as he forms new connections with relatives he never knew he had and gains long-lost insight about the difficult circumstances that entangled his family tree. From a past riddled by abuse, abandonment, and alcoholism, Daniel comes to see himself and his future in a promising new light. Inspired by actual people and events, this novel poignantly imparts unforgettable lessons about love and loss, choice and accountability, and the everlasting ties that bind generations.

The Silence of Snow by Anita Stansfield


Title: The Silence of Snow (#5)

Author: Anita Stansfield

Publisher: Covenant

Release Date: August 1, 2009

ISBN: 978-1-59811-846-9

Size: 256 pages, 6×9, softcover

Genre: General

Series: : The Sound of Rain, A Distant Thunder, Winds of Hope, Shelter from the Storm

“I love you,” Elizabeth whispered near his ear. A rush of memories overcame him in an instant: He thought of how she’d been at his side through every step that had led to this moment. He thought of her care and concern through his pain and illness. He thought of her faith and strength, her wisdom and insight. In that moment he felt as if they’d come full circle. . . . This was the moment in the life of a human being when everything was perfect, it was all worth it, and the memory of it would carry him through whatever lay ahead.

But how could Jayson have anticipated the trials awaiting him and his family? Faced with illness and setbacks that could quite possibly sabotage his resurgent career, Jayson must somehow find the faith and courage to weather these unexpected ordeals. In this spellbinding and satisfying final chapter of the Jayson Wolfe series, acclaimed LDS author Anita Stansfield tells an unforgettable story of love, loss— and one man’s unbreakable spirit.

Join Jayson and Elizabeth and all those near and dear to them as they embark on a remarkable and courageous journey that leads them to an ultimate reliance on God’s amazing grace.

Dragons of the Hourglass Mage by Hickman and Weis


Title: Dragons of the the Hourglass Mage (The Lost Chronicles, Vol 3)

Author: Tracy Hickman and Margaret Weis

Publisher: Wizards of the Coast

Release Date: August 4, 2009

ISBN: 978-0786949168

Size: 352 pages, hardcover

Genre: Fantasy

Series: Dragons of the Dwarven Depths (v 1), Dragons of the Highland Skies (v2)

Between Chronicles and Legends, what made Raistlin aspire to godhood?

Raistlin Majere has become a Black Robe wizard and travels to Neraka, the lord city of the Dark Queen, ostensibly to work for her, though in reality he means to further his own quest for power. But Takhisis finds out that the dragon orb has entered her city and sends her draconians to find and destroy the wizard who has it in his possession. Before her agents can strike, though, Raistlin finds out that Takhisis means to take control of all wizardly magic. She has ordered Kitiara to set a trap for the Gods of Magic on the Night of the Eye, when all the high-ranking wizards will be in Neraka to celebrate.

As the forces of light, with help from the good dragons, are turning the tide of battle, Raistlin is forced to flee, for his foes are closing in on him. As the Dragon Highlords vie for the Crown of Power in the Temple of the Dark Queen, Raistlin Majere wages his own desperate battle against Takhisis in the dungeons below and meets again the brother he betrayed. The fate of the world hangs in the balance.

The Samaritan Bueno by Jack Weyland


Title: The Samaritan Bueno

Author: Jack Weyland

Publisher: Granite

Release Date: July 23, 2009

ISBN: 978-1599360423

Size: 192 pages, 6×9, softcover

Genre: YA

Dan and his two friends are asked to deliver a food box to a needy family. By mistake they deliver it to the wrong house and meet Maria, an undocumented mom and her two young kids. Over the next few weeks, as Dan becomes drawn into Maria’s life, his parents find themselves at a loss to deal with his uncharacteristic behavior.

Break Point Down: Game Over by Marthy Johnson


Title: Break Point Down: Game Over

Author: Marthy Johnson

Publisher: Publication Consultants

Release Date: August 10, 2009

ISBN: 978-1594331114

Size: 314 pages, 6×9, softcover

Genre: General

Kitt Buchanan is young, rich, a champion athlete at the top of his sport, and life is training, travel, and triumph. Talk shows, interviews, magazine articles, fan clubs. Unlimited bank accounts. Can he not be a self-indulgent jerk? Is it possible to be outrageously gifted and balanced too? His focus is a little ball, excellence, getting better and better in less and less. But life abruptly changes, and he has no one to blame but himself. And a few others. But who? And why? And where is the line between courage and stupidity? In Break Point Down a repeat Grand Slam champion follows a dream that quickly gets away from him. Now the skills that made him a champion must make him a man.

Methods of Madness by Stephanie Black


Title: Methods of Madness

Author: Stephanie Black

Publisher: Covenant

Release Date: August 1, 2009

ISBN: 978-1-59811-730-1

Size: 248 pages, 6×9, softcover

Genre: Suspense

It’s been three years since the terrible night Emily Ramsey suffered a double tragedy—the death of her sister and the disappearance of her fiancé. She deserves another chance at happiness, and gentle, adorable Zach Sullivan is the perfect man to mend her shattered heart. But from the moment Emily opens the hand-carved box holding a glittering diamond solitaire, she’s seized by an unshakeable fear: she’s going to lose Zach.

That’s exactly what Monica, Zach’s ex-girlfriend, is banking on. Bitter with envy, Monica will stop at nothing to sabotage Zach and Emily’s romance. Troubling notes show up in Emily’s mailbox, fanning the flames of suspicion. A bloody photograph sends her reeling. But when someone is brutally murdered, will Emily be able to escape suspicion and the possibility that she might be next?

Second Chances by Linda Chadwick


Title: Second Chances

Author: Linda Chadwick

Publisher: Bonneville Books/Cedar Fort

Release Date: August 8, 2009

ISBN: 978-1599553047

Size: 240 pages, softcover

Genre: Romance

He slowly sat down in the porch swing. Even though it was not raining, he thought he could hear the rain falling softly from a darkened sky. He imagined Barbara sitting beside him, a sweet smile on her beautiful face and her silky brown hair blowing in the breeze.
Suddenly, the front door opened, and a small, elderly woman stepped out onto the porch. Can I help you? she asked abruptly.

Embarrassed, Larry jumped out of the swing. I . . . I used to live in this house . . . I was . . . reminiscing . . . he tried to explain. He quickly came to his senses. I m sorry to have bothered you. I ll be going now.

Still grieving over the loss of his wife, forty-one-year-old Larry Porter is facing challenges that no father should ever have to face. Almost overnight he becomes both father and mother to his three children, and they aren t having anything to do with him. A former workaholic, he now regrets being an absentee parent, but doesn t know how to make amends. Soon, Larry comes to understand that his children are more important to him than anything else. He must change the path they are on or lose them forever.

This tender and thought-provoking story will bring you face-to-face with the realities of losing a loved one. It will touch your heart, lift your spirit, and inspire you to tackle your own challenges with determination and hope.

Shadows of Eden by Timothy F. Bone


Title: Shadows of Eden

Author: Timothy F. Bone

Publisher: Bonneville

Release Date: August 8, 2009

ISBN: 978-1599552682

Size: 256 pages, 6×9, softcover

Genre: Mystery

A missing scientist. An unspeakable experiment. A dark intelligence erasing every trace of both. Del Price is no ordinary private detective and against all odds, he will find his way to the most unlikely of places, and there, in the shadows of Eden, he will discover the price for the knowledge of good and evil.

Pingo by Brandon Mull & Brandon Dorman


Title: Pingo

Author: Brandon Mull

Illustrator: Brandon Dorman

Publisher: Shadow Mountain

Release Date: August 5, 2009

ISBN: 978-1606411094

Size: 32 pages, hardcover

Genre: Children’s Picture Book

What happens when your imaginary friend becomes your imaginary enemy? New York Times bestselling author Brandon Mull and No.1 New York Times bestselling illustrator Brandon Dorman team up in this new children s picture book that explores the meaning of friendship and imagination.

Like many kids his age, Chad has an imaginary friend. His friend was Pingo. The two would fight ninjas, brew magical potions, and float in zero gravity. Each day was a fun-filled adventure, until Chad decided he was too old to have an imaginary friend. But Pingo wasn’t ready to leave Chad alone, and started tormenting him and causing all kinds of mischief. Can this once inseparable duo ever be friends again? Paired with charming illustrations, Pingo is a delightful read-out-loud picture book for children ages 3 and up.

The Undaunted by Gerald N. Lund


Title: The Undaunted

Author: Gerald N. Lund

Publisher: Deseret Book

Release Date: August 5, 2009

ISBN:

Size: 6×9, hardcover

Genre: Historical

The journey was impossible.
But they had no other choice.

At the call of their prophet, they left well-established farms and businesses to strike out yet again into the untamed wilderness. A small band of men, women, and children formed the 1879 pioneer company.

Their mission: stand as a buffer between lawlessness and civilization.

Their road: only what they created themselves, blasting out a perilous trail over slick rock and through desolate cliffs.

Their hearts: UNDAUNTED

When it comes to creating spellbinding historical fiction, nobody does it quite like Gerald N. Lund. In The Undaunted, he transports readers first to the coal mines of Yorkshire, then across the ocean and the plains to the territory of Utah, where, even in 1879, there is pioneering to be done.

A little-known and perhaps even less- appreciated chapter in the Church’s history comes to life in this gripping story of a stalwart group of Saints called to create a settlement to serve as a buffer between the established communities of Utah and the lawless frontier of the Four Corners area. Their challenge will be enormous—but the biggest part of it just may be getting there in the first place.

The Sister Pact by Cami Checketts


Title: The Sister Pact

Author: Cami Checketts

Publisher: Bonneville Books (Cedar Fort)

Release Date: August 1, 2009

ISBN: 978-1599552675

Size: 240 pages, 6×9, softcover

Genre: Romantic Suspense

After a tragic fall leaves her sister in a coma, Savannah becomes the prime suspect in the investigation. Desperately hoping to prove her innocence, she convinces detective Noah Shumway to stay by her side at all times. But the close quarters prove too much for them to handle.

Can Savannah find the proof she needs to show Noah she s not a monster? And how can she rely on her faith and keep her family safe when it seems all hope is lost?

The Sister Pact is a thrilling story of action, suspense, and love. Full of unexpected twists, this book will keep you guessing until the very last page.

Elena, Woman of Courage by Linda Weaver Clarke


Title: Elena, Woman of Courage

Author: Linda Weaver Clarke

Publisher: American Book Publishing

Release Date: August 3, 2009

ISBN: 978-1-59811-625-0

Size: 272 pages, softcover

Genre: Historical Romance

When a woman settles into a strict conservative town as the newest doctor, a slew of problems begin to arise. The town is not ready for a female doctor, let alone one so strong and independent. Elena Yeates, the town’s newest doctor, must struggle to prove herself in this western town, while keeping her composure, poise and femininity. As she fights to prove herself, the town’s most eligible bachelor finds it a challenge to see if he can win her heart.

With the 1920s rise of women’s rights, this novel gives you great insight at the struggles women had to go through, all the while watching a young love blossom!

The Perfect Couple by Brenda Novak


Title: The Perfect Couple (The Last Stand #4)

Author: Brenda Novak

Publisher: Mira

Release Date: August 1, 2009

ISBN: 978-0778326670

Size: 448 pages, 4×6″ mass market paperback

Genre: Mystery

Series: The Last Stand

Caution: This book may contain objectionable content.

Read Chapter 1 HERE.

A mother faces her greatest fear.

Zoe Duncan’s thirteen-year-old daughter goes missing from her own backyard while she’s home sick from school. The police suspect Samantha’s a runaway—she’s not happy about her mother’s upcoming marriage—but Zoe knows Sam would never do that.

Terrified of losing the person she loves most, Zoe is willing to do anything to bring Sam home, even if it means giving up her job, her nice home and her relationship with the man she thought she wanted….

A detective faces his hardest case.

Jonathan Stivers is a private investigator who donates his time to The Last Stand, a victims’ charity in Sacramento. He’s good at what he does, the best. Which is why he’s called on to help Zoe Duncan find her missing daughter. But never has he had fewer leads to work with—or been more attracted to a client. He’s sure of only one thing: Sam was taken by someone close to the family. He doesn’t realize how close until he realizes that the “perfect” couple next door is anything but…

Uncut Diamonds by Karen Jones Gowen


Title: Uncut Diamonds

Author: Karen Jones Gowen

Publisher: WiDo Publishing

Release Date: July 30, 2009

ISBN: 978-0979607011

Size: 386 pages, 6×9, softcover

Genre: General

It is the late Seventies. Gold medallions and disco dancing, bell bottoms and bushy sideburns, Star Wars and Saturday Night Fever are all the rage. Jimmy Carter is President during a frightening recession, with mortgage interest rates at 13% and fuel bills higher than house payments. In the heartland of the nation, a young Mormon couple, Marcie and Shawn McGill, struggle to save their home, family and marriage, during these uncertain times. And they find help in unexpected places…

Follow the lives of Marcie and her two sisters as their lives intertwine. Beautiful Cindy who is single and dating, often the wrong guy. Linda who married rich and lives in Denver with her husband and young daughter. And their parents, the kindly Methodist minister and his cheerful wife, who do what they can to help everyone out.

Monster Hunter International by Larry Correia


Title: Monster Hunter International

Author: Larry Correia

Publisher: Baen

Release Date: July 28, 2009

ISBN: 978-1439132852

Size: 736 pages, 4×6, softcover

Genre: Military Science Fiction

Five days after Owen Zastava Pitt pushed his insufferable boss out of a fourteenth story window, he woke up in the hospital with a scarred face, an unbelievable memory, and a job offer.

It turns out that monsters are real. All the things from myth, legend, and B-movies are out there, waiting in the shadows. Officially secret, some of them are evil, and some are just hungry. On the other side are the people who kill monsters for a living. Monster Hunter International is the premier eradication company in the business. And now Owen is their newest recruit.

It’s actually a pretty sweet gig, except for one little problem. An ancient entity known as the Cursed One has returned to settle a centuries old vendetta. Should the Cursed One succeed, it means the end of the world, and MHI is the only thing standing in his way. With the clock ticking towards Armageddon, Owen finds himself trapped between legions of undead minions, belligerent federal agents, a cryptic ghost who has taken up residence inside his head, and the cursed family of the woman he loves.

Business is good . . .

Welcome to Monster Hunter International.

David and the Bear Lake Monster by Linda Weaver Clarke

Title: David and the Bear Lake Monster

Author: Linda Weaver Clarke

Publisher: American Book Publishing

Release Date: July 20, 2009

ISBN: 978-1589825321

Size: 280 pages, softcover

Genre: Historical Romance

Deep-rooted legends, long family traditions, and a few mysterious events—Bear Lake Valley is a wonderful home to the Roberts family. Once again the Roberts family is reunited with David trying to solve personal issues and overcome his troubles! Without meaning to, David quickly becomes one with the town and its folk and finds himself entranced with one very special lady and ends up defending her honor several times. After a few teases, tricks, and mischievous deeds, David begins to overcome his troubles and figure out what he needs to do, but will it be too late for David? Will he lose the one thing that will help him get over his worries? Will David be happy again?

Eyes Like Mine by Julie Wright


Title: Eyes Like Mine

Author: Julie Wright

Publisher: Covenant

Release Date: July 28, 2009

ISBN: 978-1-59811-625-0

Size: 288 pages, 6×9, softcover

Genre: YA Speculative/Historical

A story of family that transcends time. William has been missing for two days. And even though the rest of the wagon company has decided they must continue on to Zion, Constance Brown refuses to go any further until she finds her husband. All she can think about is the last time she saw him—he lovingly touched her face and then sang their baby girl to sleep. Will that memory be all Constance has to hold on to?

In a future time and place, Liz King is a teenager struggling with her identity in the modern world. The embarrassment she feels because of her parents’ divorce and her family’s newfound financial problems turns to bitterness.

Through an inexplicable twist of fate, Constance and Liz are brought face to face. Liz recognizes Constance’s name from her mother’s endless lectures on their family history, and she also recognizes her eyes—they are exactly like her own. Were these distant relatives brought together in order to help each other?

Will Constance be able to return to her own life and find William, and will Liz be able to keep from telling Constance how her story ends? In this irresistible novel filled with gripping adventure and heartfelt emotion, two young women from drastically different times and settings learn that the challenges life holds for them are not so different after all.

Illuminations of the Heart by Joyce DiPastena

Title: Illuminations of the Heart

Author: Joyce DiPastena

Publisher: Leatherwood Press

Release Date: June 22, 2009

ISBN: 978-1935217268

Size: 425 pages, 6×9, softcover

Genre: Historical Romance

Her heart is lost in that first embrace, her world shaken to its foundations. There is just one problem: her name is not Clothilde. It is Siriol de Calendri.

Trained in the art of illumination in the far-off city of Venice, she is directed by her late brother’s will to the county of Poitou in France, where she enters the guardianship of her brother’s friend, Sir Triston de Brielle. Once in Poitou, Siri hopes to find employment in an illuminator’s shop — until Triston unexpectedly snatches her heart away with a kiss.

Triston is a man of quiet honor and courage, but the guilt he carries for the death of his late wife, Clothilde, has left him numb and hesitant to love again. Worse yet, Siri bears an uncanny resemblance to his lost love. Or does she? Her merry laughter and twinkling eyes are very different from his late wife’s shy smiles and quiet ways. Yet when he gazes into Siri’s face, all he sees is Clothilde.

Then Triston’s past returns to threaten them both. Will his tragic life with Clothilde be repeated with Siri? Trapped between the rivalry of the king’s sons on the one hand and a neighbor out for vengeance on the other, Triston realizes it would be safer to send Siri away. But how can he bear to lose her again?

Siri is determined not to be cast off and not to live in another woman’s shadow. She has illuminated many a priceless book with pen and paint. But can her own vibrant spirit illuminate the darkness in Triston’s soul and make his heart beat for her alone?

English Trifle by Josi S. Kilpack

Title: English Trifle

Author: Josi S. Kilpack

Publisher: Shadow Mountain

Release Date: July 11, 2009

ISBN: 978-1606411216

Size: 6×9, softcover

Genre: Mystery

Series: Lemon Tart

Things to Do in England:

  • Visit Westminster Abbey, the Tower of London, and the London Zoo
  • Take the Jack the Ripper tour (creepy!)
  • Sample authentic English scones and crumpets
  • Discover a dead body

What begins as a holiday trip for amateur sleuth and cooking aficionado Sadie Hoffmiller and her daughter, Breanna, turns into a bizarre mystery when they discover a dead body in the sitting room of an English manor.

Breanna’s boyfriend, Liam, is heir to both the family title and the family estate of Southgate, where everyone seems to have a secret . . . or two. When the body in the sitting room disappears, Sadie and Breanna are stranded at the estate until the police can clear them to leave.

With their departure delayed, they might as well solve the murder. Armed with a jogging whistle, her personal recipe collection, and an unfailing sense of American justice, Sadie begins her own investigation to find the killer. But as Sadie uncovers layer after layer of misdirection, secrets, and outright lies, she wonders if anyone is telling the truth or if the case is really as hopeless as it appears to be.

Take a missing family history, toss in a secret romance, mix with a mysterious murder, and this is one vacation Sadie will never forget.

The Fob Bible by Eric W Jepson, et al


Title: The Fob Bible

Author: Eric W Jepson, Danny Nelson, Arwen Taylor, Samantha Larsen Hastings, B.G. Christensen, Sarah E. Jenkins, Ryan McIlvains, William C. Bishop

Publisher: Peculiar Pages

Release Date: June 1, 2009

ISBN: 978-0-9817696-9-1, 0-9817696-9-1

Size: 6×9 hardcover 265pp / seven ebook formats (EPUB, HTML, IMP, LIT, LRF, PDF, PRC)

Genre: Literary

This book is NOT eligible for a Whitney award; it is a collection of short stories.

The Fob Bible is a collection of short stories, poetry and drama based on the Old Testament. Some feature classic characters like Solomon and Jonah while others focus on side characters such as Goliath’s mother or Job’s wives. The startling power of some of these works balances with moments of hilarity such as in “A Travel Agent’s Description of Egypt, Circa Moses” and “From the Desk of Baal’s Secretary.” Together they create a thoughtful and provocative volume inspired by the foundational text of our civilization, proof that it continues to inspire and inform us in these latter days.

(All proceeds from the sales of this book (less publication costs) are donated to LDS Humanitarian Services. Purchasing directly from http://peculiarpages.com results in nearly double the donation given when purchasing through Amazon or other fine retailers.)

Also available: Plain and Precious Parts from the Fob Bible is electronic-only selections from the full Fob Bible available to read online (http://b10mediaworx.com/peculiarpages/fobbible/pppfobbible.htm) or in seven ebook formats (EPUB, HTML, IMP, LIT, LRF, PDF, PRC). Plain and Precious is free with the exception of the Kindle version which costs 99 cents. It consists of four short stories and fourteen poems and runs from humorous to thought-provoking to inspiring.

Dream Walk by Meg Allison


Title: Dream Walk

Author: Meg Allison

Publisher: Samhain

Release Date: July 07, 2009

ISBN: 978-1-60504-317-3

Size: 288 pages, Trade paperback

Genre: Paranormal romance

Caution: This book may contain objectionable content.

Some nightmares are deadly real.

Camille Bryant is a gifted medium being slowly driven insane by terrifying dreams. When she is forced to accept help from a Sentinel—a mysterious warrior of her race—her comfort zone is quickly invaded. Try as she might, she can’t seem to stop the erotic visions that fill her mind when her rescuer is near.

Ian Spain is a dream walker who’s been assigned to banish the dream demon from Camille’s restless nights. But complications quickly ensue. This is no ordinary demon and Camille is no ordinary woman: both are far stronger than anyone realizes. So strong, Ian suddenly isn’t sure he has the power to vanquish her demon—not when his own hound his every step.

Their passion ignites even as the body count rises and their courage is put to the test in a battle as old as time. Winner takes all.